🔥 Why You Can’t Miss This:
“Just wait your turn.”
Sound familiar? That outdated advice has held too many women back—and in this episode, we’re calling BS.
Marie sits down with Alison Wilson, a former chemical engineer turned C-suite executive and leadership coach for women. They dive into the myth of wait your turn leadership, how impostor syndrome feeds it, and what to do when you’re ready to rise—but no one’s offering you a seat.
Alison shares powerful insights on the quiet strength of hidden leaders, why confidence ≠ volume, and the mindset shifts that helped her go from overlooked to unstoppable.
🎧 Press Play & Power Up
⏳ Episode Breakdown by Timestamp:
00:00 – Different Perspectives on Competence
Stop doubting yourself—start recognizing your skills.
00:19 – Welcome to Ordinary to Badass
Why this podcast is here for women in leadership.
01:09 – Badass Move of the Week
Shouting out small acts that spark confidence.
02:26 – Recognizing Coworkers
The value of lifting others up in leadership.
03:19 – Listener Q&A: Speaking Up in Meetings
Real advice on conquering fear and using your voice.
04:15 – Overcoming Meeting Anxiety
Marie shares tips to prep and show up powerfully.
05:06 – Using the “Yes, And” Strategy
A low-pressure way to ease into leadership conversations.
06:05 – Celebrating Small Wins
Give yourself credit—even for baby steps.
06:57 – Meet Alison Wilson
Engineer turned leadership coach with a passion for helping women rise.
07:10 – Defining Badassery
What it means to own your story and feel empowered.
10:06 – The Real Story Behind Impostor Syndrome
Why competent women still question themselves—and how to stop.
13:19 – Research on Promotion & Leadership Traits
What actually gets women promoted (hint: not being loud).
14:27 – Hidden Leaders & Their Strengths
The power of humility, emotional intelligence, and team-first thinking.
22:39 – Why Women Really Seek Coaching
It’s not just about promotion—it’s about clarity and confidence.
31:52 – Building Confidence to Lead
Why recognizing your own brilliance is the first step.
36:22 – Choosing the Right Work Environment
What’s the cost of staying where you don’t feel seen?
38:42 – Trusting Your Inner Voice
Stop looking outward for answers—you already know.
42:55 – Pop Culture Mic Drop: Moana
Alison’s leadership journey meets Disney realness.
43:30 – Free Guide: Breaking Barriers
Marie’s resource for stepping into leadership power.
💬 In This Episode, We Get Into:
• 👊 Why “wait your turn” is outdated (and what to do instead)
• 🧠 How impostor syndrome quietly stalls your leadership rise
• 💼 Why confidence doesn’t always mean being loud
• 🧰 Coaching tools to uncover what’s really holding you back
• 🔥 How to stop downplaying your value and start showing up boldly
🛠 Tools, Books, & Resources Mentioned:
• 📘 Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? by Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic – 13:19
• 🧠 “Yes, And” Strategy – 05:06
• 🔍 Coaching insights – 34:23
• 💡 Free Guide: Breaking Barriers – 43:30
• 🎥 Pop Culture Ref: Moana – 42:55
• 🌐 Website
• 📲 Instagram
💥 This Episode Lit a Fire? Don’t Let It Burn Out.
If something sparked in you while listening—don’t just sit on it.
👉 Grab my free guide, Breaking Barriers
Real stories. Real strategies. No fluff.
It’s your permission slip to lead louder, speak up, and own your damn seat at the table.
Because you weren’t made to fit in quiet.
You were made to shake the table.
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